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Suhaib Hasan supports & defends the Darwinist Misguidance of his son Usama, calling it an Acceptable “Taweel” Opinion & compares their situation with Uthman (رضي الله عنه)
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Turathi Associates of GLM (Gumraahi Lane Masjid) & Uthman Farooq spreading Kufr of Darwinist Theory of Evolution
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Transcript:
And I think that ah people should follow the mobs and
whatever they say, they should say “Yes” then they can save
their life, if that is the question then I am prepared to be Uthman Al Maqtool ah I am prepared to be
that I become like Uthman. Somebody has said, that he should
be executed. I would like him to be executed like Uthman. If
you because someone has said it. So I I would I would like
that I I must not kill any person but I should be killed (seeking sympathy)
like Syedna Uthman. In this month. I am prepared for that.
Did you not want to listen? Because people did not listen
to Uthman at all. Uthman was besieged for for six weeks.
They never listen to him. He he tried to explain his position
to and they were early Muslims. & he was a Sahabi, a Khalifa Rashid. But they did
never want to to listen to him just like as you are behaving
until he was martyred. Until he was martyred. So I would say that
this is the position you want to not want to listen to him.
I have said and is the last statement and after that I am
not going to ah continue with this debate that there are two
theories ah there are two
If you want to interrupt, it is not going to affect anything.
It’s not going to affect my position. The only thing is as
I said, I want to be Uthman al Maqtool, if you want to do that, you can do that.
You can even come and attack us. (Playing Victim) So then listen then
listen then why don’t we listen so this ah these two opinions
these two opinions, , that Syedna Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ), that this is the Jamhoor opinion, Jamhoor opinion
is the first man who was created and Allah has ah ah
blown ah the soul into him that is the opinion which was held
by by the Muslims those people like Ibn Khaldun they ah have said
something of ah which correspond with the evolution theory. So what what
is their difference between the two? Between the two when Allah
wanted to create Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) and the theory which is held by you by
majority of the scholars that it was just like he created him
and blown in him and then he was Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) he started speaking
that was the opinion held by by by the Muslims. The second ah
ah theory which he is advancing, Usama is advancing that he
said that this is the same thing, Syedna Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) was created by by the
clay we don’t ah disagree with that he was created out of clay
and he was created out of he was ah created ah with all the
substance which is found in the earth, but it it took some
“Evolutionary Process” this is this is how when Allah has
mentioned about Syedna Eesa (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) that Angel Jibrail came and he blew into Mariam then
Syedna Eesa (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) was not delivered the next moment, he was not delivered the next
moment, it took the same process which a women takes about nine
months process, and after that he was born so there was a
process, there was a process but still the word “Kun fa-yakun ” was used so what
he was saying that this process was through this “Evolutionary
Process” until ah Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) came through to the stage as well so
these are this is the “Opinion” which is as I said in the
beginning it is a “Taweel” which is ah advanced by some of these
scholars which he had mentioned that Taweel, is there any room for in
ah in Islam? or in this opinion is there any room for that this?
is a matter to be discussed by by the scholars, by the scholars
themselves, whether this this ah procedure which has taken
million of years for the creation of Adam (عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ) one “Theory” and
the other which says no he was instantly he was created which
was the other Theory few these these are the two things where we are
we are discussing here. So this what I say he got a he got ah
the second opinion of and can because of this he becomes out
of the fold of Islam this is a matter which you can’t decide
it because if you start taking vote ah then of course there
would be difference of opinion, so it is it is up to,
it is up to the scholars of Islam to discuss about these two theories
and decide decide rather this theory or
it’s up to us to decide
The second opinion is based upon science.
Who knows the science they can give this opinion the person
who does not know the science at all, he should not give a Fatwa
about it so I still think that there is a room for just for
I I am.
My opinion
Show some respect. Guess what I said? I said to you that he
said that it came through a process of a vision. He said
But this is still a theory. This is still a theory
which is Theory which has not been proved. Which has not been proved, this
is why it is still a theory. It is still a theory. This is why
you must not ah you must not ah ah interfere in or ah
understand it in a different way. It is a theory. It may be
right, it may be wrong but it is a theory. Theory is always a
theory. So this is why be comfortable when we say that
you take, no no I everybody knows that I hold the the
the opinion which is known to this kind of Islam. I hold that
opinion. I am not ah ah saying that I have changed my opinion.
But I am saying what his opinion that that is under “Taweel”
comes under “Taweel” and this Taweel ah could be wrong.
So this is why ah the question is that rather because of this “Taweel”
he has become out of the fold of Islam? and the prayer is
not valid behind him? that is the that that No, no.
There’s the same thing there.
Creating
Crowd: “Brother, sit down!” Anyhow we have
said that. Has created everything, he created even the universe,
even the universe but the process whether it has
taken a process or not it has taken a process or not, this is
the question even the universe even the universe has taken a process,
It is to be proved if it is not proved scientifically then you
have not believe in it at all.
I am saying that if there are if there is a “Taweel” as in
by Taweel as I said in the beginning by Ashaira, by Maturidiyyah, by all of the Hanafis
There are Taweel in many measures.
But let me make it very clear to you and all our brothers in
the mosque that I am the first brick he is the he is the brick (Emotional Blackmail)
and I am also the brick of the mosque, you want to kick him out (Desparate for support)
and I will the second target would be me because I am
I know that. I know the Arabic. I know the Arabic,
I know the Arabic parable.
You no no. You are kick him only you are going to kick him
because of his Taweel, this is why I I I don’t I’m not going to accept your Fatwa
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Further reading on the Misguidance of the Darwinist Usama Hasan and his Hizbee Father Suhaib Hasan
May Allah ﷻ guide them or break their backs!
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